"Without us"
Mass behaviour is a complex phenomenon, based on the interaction of individuals out there.
It's like a constantly swirling tidal system - a behavioural soup: changes in behaviour within the population seem to arise mostly from within the system, rather than from without. They are endogenous rather than exogenous
Changes happen mostly without us.
So before you try to make folk in your organisation or outside it do something in particular, ponder briefly how the tides shaping their behaviour are running.
And how you might work with (rather than against) these forces that are so much more powerful than you or I will ever be